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Did the Jews invented the resurrection? Check out this tag team answer by JWW and FT.
Atheist Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, and Communist China were less violent than America and Britain during the same years? Nope. Not to mention quality of life is higher in Christian nations.
I love Frank
See his hand signals at the start of conversation! ,i noticed,don't trust the churches, leave them , get out of them before its too late!
Keep it simple. Jesus would be a liar and therefore everything else that He claimed about Himself would be doubtful if His prophecy required manipulation of His ressurection.Old Testament prophecies apart, He Himself said "Destroy this temple…" implying that His divinity included power over death.Shalom.
Does anyone have the link to this conference or soemthing a lot longer? I dont want just this piece
2Co 5:18-20 KJV 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
The jews invented our main modern religions! Torah, then new testament then qaran! It's all the same god different rules! It's all evil anyway! A god that murdered everyone several times and made a hell so he can torture people and he made people not believe so he could have something to torture! Its sick to think this story book god is good and the satan that does none of that is the evil one? Its freekin baffling! I thought loving people did not kill others but corrected and teach others! You can keep that evil god I'll believe in humans and empathy for others! Religions breed hate and fear and its proven in reality! The more religious a country is the more violence there is and the less religion the less violence there is! ALL Jails are filled with 95% religious people! How much more proof do you need! It's all evil and man made!
They had to convince themselves. It is all but assumptions ladies and gentlemen.
No it wasn't invented. The evidence everywhere of the evil in the world is proof of the truth of Jesus.
if it wasn't for the resurrection of Christ the human race would have been erased. and that's a fact.
YESHUSA THE TEACHER OF THE MATTHEW GOSPEL CAME TO TEACH US NOT DIE FOR YOUR SINS. HE CAME TO POINT OUT HOW TO OBEY GOD AGAIN BECAUSE JUDAISM/PHARISEEISM HAD LEFT GOD AND TAUGHT RABBIS TORAH THE ORAL LAWS WHICH KEEP THEM IN SIN BECAUSE SIN IS PROFITABLE FOR THE LEADERS AND MANIPULATORS. OUR TEACHER IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN CALL THE LOST SHEEP BACK. WE CAN HAVE NO OTHER TEACHER AND WE HAVE NO OTHER GOD THAN THE ONE WHO SENT THE TEACHER TO SHOW US THE WAY HOME. THEY MURDERED YESHUA OUR TEACHER AND REPLACED HIM WITH A NEW god named jesus and made them bow to the image on the cross. This is absolutely an abomination. They replaced GOD with a man!
Everything after the murder of God's teacher as described on the cross is a blatant lie to keep control of all the people. They made up the resurrected jesus which is the name and image that the beast made up to lead the world to hell. Yeshua/eesa the man recorded as the teacher in matthew is the only one teacher and after God sent the delusion down allowing them to think they had done away(MATTHEW 21 V 33)with him they then decided to use Paul and John to write the lies the TARES (MATTHEW 13)MATTHEW 24 WARNED US ABOUT THE LIAR IN THE DESERT WHO IS PAUL OF TARSUS THE MURDEROUS LIAR.For proof go look at Acts chapter 15 and compare it to what the orthodox rabbis teach which is called the noachide laws for righteous gentiles. There is no such thing. The only way for anyone to return to God is by obeying the embedded knowledge left in matthew by Yeshua for us the TRUE LOST SHEEP OF ISRA'EL.
Knowingly or not the rabbis are murdering the souls of the waking Isra'elites that want to serve God as we did when Moses and Yehoshua/joshua/Yeshua taught the true torah.We have all been fooled. The jesus was made to take you all away from GOD OUR TRUE AND ONLY SAVIOR.
ALL THE WORDS OF PAUL ARE DEATH.I PRAY TO THE ALL MIGHTY OUR CREATOR THAT YOUR EARS AND EYES SHALL BE HEALED TODAY SO YOU MAY ALL REPENT AND GIVE UP YOUR LIVES OF BREAKING GOD'S COMMANDMENTS SO YOU STOP SIN AND GOD WILL TURN AND HEAL YOU. YOU WERE ALL TRICKED. I DON'T BLAME ANYONELEAVE THAT TO GOD. JUST COME OUT OF SIN AND BEAT THE DEVIL BY DAWNING THE ARMOR GOD PROVIDED WHICH ARE THE TEN CLEANSING COMMANDMENTS. SATAN CANNOT BEAT THE OBEDIENT BECAUSE GOD WALKS WITH US.😁😁WE CAN DO THISMAY PEACE BE IN YOU
You believe the thing you do not see. You believe other person testimonial.Firstly, we have to find which religion is truth/true/right. How? We must have same definition or meaning of the truth/true/right. We must use same method to determine the truth/true/right. Believe => claim = test/check = see. This is normally practice by everybody when we buy/accept something/good which is expensive from other people(we see or we do not see).
Our faith is very expensive.Please open Al Quran Surah Al Hujurat 49: 6. O who believe! If a Fasiq (liar-evil person) comes to you with and news, verify it, lest you should harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful for what you have done. Please open Bible John 4:1. Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test to see whether they are from God, for false prophets have gone out into the world. We test and verify the claim/message words of god from Bible (can see), Torah (can see), Al Quran(can see), and other religion books. We must get/see same result(claim=test/check=see) or not. God(can not see) create man(can see). Man worship god. Question: How is god create man? What Method? God create man from ground dust(Torah,Bible, Quran) or man rib(Torah, Bible,Quran) or woman only(Bible,Quran) or Nutfah(mix drop of male and female sexual discharge)-Quran or other religion books?. We do testing/experimenting/checking to verify it, by using these method to create man. Everybody can test/experiment/check, verify and see it. Which method can create/produce man?.Answer: The claim/message/words of god in Al Quran is truth/true/right. Certainly. This religion is truth/true/right. So, we have to believe/trust it . Please, read Al Quran and think. You get the answer. Sorry, my English is not very good.
While people are entitled to believe what they want and I am sure this panel of Christian apologists in this video is likely a group of nice men who know a thing or two, what is being said is to justify what they believe in because they have to fit a resurrected Jesus into the picture. It is understandable as obviously their faith means a lot to them; There is no reason to believe that the 4 Gospels ( the ones that would later be canonized in the New Testament) as well as the Book of Acts (same author/school as the Gospel of Luke) were written before the majority of scholars agree they were written which is around 70 AD – 95 AD depending on the book.The argument they make is only made because key events like those mentioned by one of the speakers in the video were not recorded in these New Testament books. It is a tradition that just about all of the original Apostles (the 11 obviously minus Judas) died as martyrs for their faith, especially and famously, Peter’s martyrdom. Paul, though not an original apostle also supposedly died a martyr’s death in Rome sometime in the 60’s AD according to Catholic tradition. Interestingly enough, not a single recording of the deaths of these martyred apostles made it into the New Testament. Not saying that it is not possible that an apostle could have been murdered for one reason or another, including persecution for their faith but one can easily argue that these traditions arose to bolster the spread of early Christianity as people dying for what they believe in can be very moving to a potential convert to any religion or ideology. It also does not mean that because someone may have died for their faith that what they believed is the ultimate truth and ONLY WAY (Which Christianity claims to be). Try to understand the mindset of the 1st century Roman Empire and the heartfelt yearning of the Jewish People that this Messianic figure sent by God would lead to their redemption from oppressive rule and treatment from a foreign power. It was a time ripe with Messiah claimants (Jesus was not the only one) who believed they were living in Messianic and even End Times. Christianity started out as and to varying degrees today is is an apocalyptic creed that believes we may be living in the Final Days. That is certainly what many early followers especially believed hence the delay in writing scriptures for this new faith.Why write holy books when the world might end tomorrow or next week ? Also one should maybe think of the attachment of these early followers of Jesus. Sure, statistically some must have abandoned him during his ministry and after his death but think of the people who were so influenced that that is what they lived for and how the leader of their sect being killed would be catastrophic. Bring that there are several accounts of resurrections in the Hebrew Bible and the belief in the resurrection of humanity sometime in the Messianic Age, it is not surprising that a story, a hope, a belief in a resurrected Messianic leader could arise and could become preached as fact. It does not prove that it happened and that these New Testament books that the apologists speak of must have been recorded earlier because they were apparently missing information considered important in promoting Christianity. People are often susceptible by nature in believing things they are told or want to believe and the human mind and brain is one of the most complex things on this earth. We tend to believe on emotions and yearnings. These gentlemen, while likely sincere have not provided any evidence but I can appreciate where they are coming from.
Lol checkmate, Jewish folks!
yes sir i agree
The apostles all left Jesus and feared for their life prior to his death. They were scared to death. Then somehow they invented a story of resurrection and died for it?
Makes absolutely no sense. If Jesus didn’t rise there would have been no following. They would of remain hidden as there would be no reason to pursue anything else. Their teacher was crucified. End of story
From our Creator's perspective, everyone is given a different level of intelligence so that society may be bound together in harmony, peace and grateful affection, so that compassion, pity and charity may flow down to a lower-class in a way that produces a grateful affection and humility. From Satan's perspective, to maximize, pleasure, power, wealth and glory, society should be an intelligence dictatorship, with everyone ruling over those with less knowledge, less wealth or less whiteness of skin.
For God created Satan with his evil angels and cast them down to earth, so that the heavenly realms could see the reason why created beings must never be given an ingrate pride that would enslave those less intelligent.
And so, for 6,000 years the more intelligent upper-half of planet earth has hoarded all the land, wealth, political power and quality healthcare. The root cause of wars for plunder, nukes unending, one billion humans now starving to death and global warming.
Is there a link to watch the whole conference? Thanks for posting
Where can I find the full discussion?
Mr. Turek, what's your take on thess. Rapture or not?
great point about the dating of the book of Acts . Early evidence omissions of most important deaths .
Where does it say in the Bible God himself will/has come down to save us? I'm interested to understand the Trinity…….
Resurrection was used 1200 BC to glorify Attis (Greece) & Mithras (Persia), but later copied by Christians to glorify Jesus.1. Born on December 25th 2. Born of a virgin 3. Birth was accompanied by a star in the east 4. After his birth was adored by three kings 5. Teacher at 12 6. Baptized/Ministry at 30 7. Had 12 disciples he traveled about with 8. Performing miracles: 8a. healing the sick, 8b. walking on water 9. Known by many names: "Lamb of God", "The Truth", "God's begotten(?) Son", "The Light", "The good Shepard" 10. After being betrayed: 11. was crucified 12. Dead-for 3 days 13. Resurrected
Attis (Greece, 1200 BC) — Attributes 1, 2, 11, 12, 13Krishna (India, 900 BC) — Attributes 2, 3, 8, 13
Dionysos (Greece, 500 BC) — Attributes 1, 2, 8b + Turning Water into Wine, 9 ("God"s son', "Alpha and Omega", …), 13
Mithras (Persia, 1200 BC) — Attributes 1, 2, 7, 8, 12, 13, 9 ("The Truth", 'The Light"), Day of worship: "Sunday"
According to Bhagavata Purana some believe that Krishna was born without a sexual union, by “mental transmission” from the mind of Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki, his mother. Christ and Krishna were called both God and the Son of God. Both were sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man. Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity. Krishna’s adoptive human father was also a carpenter. A spirit or ghost was their actual father. Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent. Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star. Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna’s parents stayed in Mathura. Both Christ and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted. Both were identified as “the seed of the woman bruising the serpent’s head.” Jesus was called “the lion of the tribe of Judah.” Krishna was called “the lion of the tribe of Saki.” Both claimed: “I am the Resurrection.” Both were “without sin.” Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine. Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.” Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead. Both selected disciples to spread his teachings. Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners. Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies. Both were crucified and both were resurrected.
Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger. He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles. He “rode in a triumphal procession on an ass.” He was a sacred king killed and eaten in an eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification. Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25. He was the God of the Vine, and turned water into wine. He was called “King of Kings” and “God of Gods.” He was considered the “Only Begotten Son,” Savior,” “Redeemer,” “Sin Bearer,” Anointed One,” and the “Alpha and Omega.” He was identified with the Ram or Lamb. His sacrificial title of “Dendrites” or “Young Man of the Tree” intimates he was hung on a tree or crucified.
In the middle of the 100s AD, out along the south coast of the Black Sea, Glycon was the son of the God Apollo, who: came to Earth through a miraculous birth, was the Earthly manifestation of divinity, came to earth in fulfillment of divine prophecy, gave his chief believer the power of prophecy, gave believers the power to speak in tongues, performed miracles, healed the sick, and raised the dead.
Zoroaster was born of a virgin and “immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.” He was baptized in a river. In his youth he astounded wise men with his wisdom. He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil. He began his ministry at age 30. Zoroaster baptized with water, fire and “holy wind.” He cast out demons and restored the sight to a blind man. He taught about heaven and hell, and revealed mysteries, including resurrection, judgment, salvation and the apocalypse. He had a sacred cup or grail. He was slain. His religion had a eucharist. He was the “Word made flesh.” Zoroaster’s followers expected a “second coming” in the virgin-born Saoshynt or Savior, who is to come in 2341 AD and begin his ministry at age 30, ushering in a golden age.
Attis was born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana. He was considered the savior who was slain for the salvation of mankind. His body as bread was eaten by his worshipers. He was both the Divine Son and the Father. On “Black Friday,” he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth. He descended into the underworld. After three days, Attis was resurrected.
where can I find this whole thing?
This guy need to give short direct answers . He always go round the earth until he comes back and make his point
None of the bible is written by eye witnesses, and these guys are either lying through their teeth and treating their audience like fungi – feed them manure and keep them in the dark – or they really believe the nonsense they spout. I'm inclined to the former.
Does you not thinking they have a motive prove anything?
HE IS RISEN!
What a treat to see some of my favorite apologists all on the same stage!
🌎 is a lie, Frank. When are you going to figure out the earth is Flat, Motionless, and Enclosed just as we observe and just as 240 verses of scripture describe. You don't have to debate this nonsense, consumer grade tech has caught up with the satanic lie of NASA. (revelation the devil deceived the whole world, globe earth is the foundation of the bigger deception that's on it's way)
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