Does God Learn from Our Prayers?

Does God Learn from Our Prayers?

Does God Learn from Our Prayers?

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Greg Koukl answers the question, “Does God learn from our prayers?”

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18 thoughts on “Does God Learn from Our Prayers?

  1. Paul Osbourne

    If god is far superior to man what gives this half wit the authority to speak on his behalf ? This nobody who clearly hasnt read the bible only gets a couple of hundred views on his vids !! I have more views on blank videos !!!

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  2. Chris G

    Great video, thanks for posting. The title got me.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  3. Carolin Migliazzo

    This answer is dependent on a linear model of time. It also is saying that God's omniscience is limited to our actions, that he is incapable of knowing what we may or may not be thinking about praying. The problem with apologetics is that they are full of contingencies which are needed to push the idealogy forward. Like a science experiment which is not yielding the desired results and is being reworked in order that the whole project is not scrapped.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  4. Bob Seidensticker

    … or maybe this is all just rationalization after the fact to shore up beliefs begun by an Iron Age tribe in the desert. That's why I subtitled my Cross Examined blog, "Clear Thinking About Christianity."

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  5. Richard Biery

    That is not quite what Koukl is saying I think. He is reconciling (correctly I believe) God's omniscience and omnipotence and our genuine freedom to choose (or not) to pray meaningfully. This approach is the same essentially that C.S. Lewis took. Foreknowledge (based on this argument) does not imply predetermination or predestination (which is the Calvinistic view of the dilemma).

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  6. philWynk

    Simpler version: God wants us to pray because He intends to involve us in the management of the universe.

    You can make an analogy to involving your kids in, say, planning your vacation. You don't give up your ability to plan, but you draw them into it so they can learn. God does the same with the administration of the universe. He could perform acts of mercy without us, but He wants us to do them with Him.

    It's the same thing, though.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  7. Bert Dreistein

    "If there is motion of our three-dimensional space relative to the fourth dimension, all the changes we experience and assign to the flow of time will be due simply to this movement, the whole of the future as well as the past always existing in the fourth dimension. —from a "Letter to the Editor" by William Garnett. in Nature on February 12, 1920.
    wikipedia entry on Flatland.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  8. R Fuller

    I am a person who prays, but I've had difficulty praying for certain things, when it seems others have had no trouble. Sometimes I thought some prayers, mine and others, were trivial and not worthy of God's attention. Yesterday, however, out of nowhere (for I hadn't been thinking about this subject) it was given to me (by the Spirit) that praying is an act of worship; that it's a deliberate inclusion of God in our daily lives. Now I know to pray for even small things, for it's worshiping God.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  9. Bert Dreistein

    As far as when God knows what he knows or "He has always known what we are going to pray…", this is a difficult area for us to comprehend. If you have read Flatland, you can get an idea of what we are up against. Someone living in two dimensions and visited by someone with 3 dim. sees only the two that he can observe. We comprehend 3 but God sees at least 4 (eternal and omnipotent). Greg is discussing this limited perspective WE have and how God KNOWS, not will know.

    Hope this helps,

    Dave

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  10. Bert Dreistein

    @LetReasonPrevail1 I think I know what you are trying to say. But if Greg were to state all of his basic assumptions (or conclusions) before stating the point he were trying to make it would take much longer to get to the point.

    He is obviously coming from a Christian worldview with the basis of an Omniscient (all knowing) God and addressing a common misunderstanding of how prayer influences God. He knows all that will happen – hence he cannot learn from our prayers what he already knows.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  11. ProofThatGodExists

    I disagree. God does not know our prayers based on our choice to pray but based of his sovereign decree. God does not learn. Yes prayer does change things, based on God's decree. For example if God decrees that our stomachs be full tonight, our eating changes the state of our stomachs based on His decree. Similarly our prayers change things based on the prayers which God has decreed, and we FREELY, yes FREELY pray. God decrees our free prayers – and no – I don't know He does that.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  12. ProfNewc

    So the term "eternity" means time without end, but when applied to God it means "without time?" Which is it?
    God cannot learn anything, but he can act 'after' (a temporal index) a prayer is prayed? Either A or non-A. Which is it?
    I can have eternal life meaning my time will not end, but God in that very same eternity means "no time." Which is it?
    Why is the term constantly equivocated?

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  13. MrScottymoore

    Strange message. To say that God does know what, or when, or why were going to pray, from eternity past, but does not know these thing from eternity future, seems to be a contradiction..It is like you are saying God has to learn…
    God is eternel (timeless) and and if I understand his word, he has known us from eternity past and knows our future, and is working all things togethor toward that moment of timelessness (the end), or himself, then he must know when and what we will pray…

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  14. scooter17568

    Thanks again for another great video.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  15. ReliableLojic

    …I'm confused

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  16. deezynar

    God knows not just what has happened and will happen, he also knows everything that didn't and will never happen. That is how he is able to run things in the best possible way w/out infringing on human free will.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  17. LetReasonPrevail1

    Two points to consider:

    All your claims about the nature of how god thinks or considers prayers are bald assertions. You are speaking about something with apparent confidence that you in fact have no way of knowing. Thus, are guessing & nothing more.

    To say god is "all-knowing" is incoherent & carries the logical implication that he can not think b/c to think is to consider new information but he can't do this since he already knows all information, hence the incoherence of said attribute.

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply
  18. punchbowlhaircut

    How did you answer your daughter?

    April 3, 2022 at 3:01 am Reply

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