God of the Gaps?

God of the Gaps?

God of the Gaps?

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Does Christianity rely on a God of the gaps? Greg Koukl answers.

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17 thoughts on “God of the Gaps?

  1. Rex Dalit

    Greg, even though there appears a palpably poor history of religions explaining past physical mysteries, a burden any religion will have great difficulty shedding, at least I have learned of the existence of a cool battery holder for one's workbench. Cheers.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  2. Armando7654

    science minus Truth =/= science

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  3. pandorachild

    So Dumb!
    How the heck do you fit so many mistakes in such a short video?
    That must take practice.

    ID is a crock of shit pretending to be science when its not and injecting God into a gap of out knowledge. 9:10 creationists object to evolution because it doesn't explain origins of life, well no fucking shit dumb ass.
    We don't "know" how life started but claiming God is involved is God of the gaps considering he was eliminated from the origin of "species". He went from the creator of kinds, to the designer of the universe? nice try.

    Science is knowledge, faith is not.
    Take it on faith? Oops? Faith leads to contradiction.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  4. Dr Spike

    Could not have said that any better myself. Well done.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  5. s bushido

    You say things like ID are being offered as explanations, but those don't actually explain anything. Hence, God of the Gaps. When people ask you for an explanation of how life arose on the planet, and you say it was created/designed, that still doesn't tell us how it was created/designed. What mechanisms were involved, what energies were used, what the design process was, etc.

    When scientists admit that there is a gap, they say "we don't know, so let's try to find out." If they are assuming that they'll eventually be able to figure it out, it's because without that assumption there's no point in asking the questions in the first place.

    As for your objection to materialism, do you have examples of why it should be assumed that there's something more than the material in the first place? I've heard of appeals to the soul, and similar gap-ish arguments about consciousness. But the problem with proposing the supernatural as an explanation is that as soon as we can understand and describe what is considered supernatural, it becomes natural.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  6. BarracudaProd1234

    Scientists admitting that they don't know something is not denying the existence of a god.

    It's also interesting to note that two hundred years ago, apologists would have been demanding scientists to show how the complexity of life could have come into being. We now know that it was through the process of evolution. Had nothing to do with god.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  7. ruffo coyote

    If, and oooh, what a big if, atheism will not allow the Divine foot in the door, Why? well, that´s exactly what they´re fighting against to, they are Hatheists, they hate God, nevertheless it´s a very accurate descriptive video, thank you

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  8. Matthew Dawson

    Benny Ocean: What kind of evidence for God being real are you looking for? Or, in other words, what would you accept as legit evidence? 

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  9. Matthew Dawson

    Being committed to the idea that everything can be explained under purely naturalistic processes BEFORE establishing the fact that everything did actually happen naturally is circular reasoning, and since no one can actually know that everything did actually happen naturally, no one can argue that way without committing an error in reasoning. 

    In order to remain intellectually honest, you must stay open and go where the evidence leads. That is the first step.  

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  10. Philip Wilson

    It seems to me that on the issue of creation and evolution we are usually talking past each other.

    As has been pointed out earlier there are 2 categories of causes.  The efficient cause (agent) and the material cause (event).  In the example of the Boeing airplane Mr. Boeing would be acknowledged as the efficient cause of Boeing airplanes.  The material cause would be aluminum, rubber, etc. that go into making the airplane.

    So often times when these discussions get going one side talks about the material cause (evolution assuming that's the answer) and the other side talks about God (the efficient cause).

    If God is the efficient cause then shouldn't there also be a material cause which God uses to accomplish the task?  Now, there does seem to be a hole here, at least for the initial event, the creation of the universe, since there is no material or forces, etc to work with, ie. creation ex nihilo.  But since that event is God still creating ex nihilo or is he using materials and forces already in existence for all material events that occur?

    For instance, take the miracle of Jesus turning the water into wine at the wedding in Cana.  We all know that molecules of wine and water are different.  If you had a video on the molecular level of what was happening what would you see?  Would you seen new atoms materializing ex nihilo creating new chemical bonds producing the miracle or would they be scavenged from some other place in the universe.  Maybe a nearby vintner discovers that he has water in his vats the next day instead of the juice he harvested.  

    I've never really seen these ideas discussed before but obviously there has to be some kind of physical transition that takes place from the prior state to the post state.

    I'd love to know your thoughts Greg.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  11. Patriot36

    Thanks for the video Greg!

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  12. Nolan Aubuchon

    All explanations try to fill in gaps in knowledge. For example, I could accuse atheists of using "evolution of the gaps." That would be a rather lame dismissal, however.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  13. BennyOcean

    3:13 "ID guys have written huge books about why God is a better explanation given the evidence". 

    Care to narrow it down a bit for us? What specifically makes it a 'better' explanation? How do we tell a God-designed thing from a naturally-occurring thing?

    And more importantly, is your hypothesis falsifiable? The God hypothesis… how could it be proven wrong?

    4:10 "scientists are assuming there's a gap and science will fill it". What? They're just admitting that there are things we don't know. The reason this 'god of the gaps' label fits is that you would like to pretend that there are no gaps because the god Yahweh from ancient Hebrew mythology explains away all the difficult questions.

    "Gap filling without justification by the scientists".

    What the heck, dude. This is a lot of fast-talking not amounting to much. Scientists have done no such thing.

    "There's only a gap if you presume a materialist explanation".

    In other words, if you begin with the god assumption, you never have to acknowledge any gaps, because the god Yahweh from ancient Hebrew mythology explains away all the difficult questions.

    "I don't think there's a gap, because there's an explanation that fits the evidence".

    Magic. The god Yahweh from ancient Hebrew mythology magicked the universe into existence by the majesty of his magicalness. That, sir, is not an explanation. It is ignorance masquerading as knowledge. 

    When you posit the existence of a supernatural, omnipotent agent, no matter what you are seeking to explain, your agent will always be able to "fit the evidence". That's the nice thing about supernatural, omnipotent agents. Sure, there's no evidence they exist, but if they did exist they would be able to explain everything in need of an explanation.

    You don't have a god. You have a god concept. You have a concept in your mind of something that, if real, could explain things. That's a world away from having anything resembling a true explanation.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  14. Teachthecross

    The reason that many Christians deny these sorts of arguments is because, even if it were determined that God designed the entity in question, one still wonders how God did it, which is the initial question science set out to answer. It also seems as though once we figure out how God did it, we have a working naturalistic explanation with no need for inference to a creator.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  15. deezynar

    It can't be denied that science has made great discoveries precisely because it has shunned supernatural explanations to problems.  That this has been true in the past, does not guarantee it will hold true as science explores ever deeper mysteries.  The laws of nature operate in the material universe without any evident supernatural intervention.  However, as science is now starting to look into why, or how, the laws themselves are sustained, I believe science will run into things that are very different from their previous experience.  They will no longer be dealing with typical unanswered questions, they will have questions whose only answers will be supernatural.  These will not be "god of the gaps" situations, rather these will be gaps that only God can fill.  Scientists will become theists, but since the way of salvation is narrow, few will become Christians.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  16. Siri Bright

    We aren't claiming God from what we don't know, but what we DO know.

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply
  17. Anonymous Omniscience

    The only scientific way we know of intelligence coming into existence is through evolution. why should I assume that a super-intelligence existed before everything else? 

    November 5, 2021 at 6:02 am Reply

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