Greg Koukl: Sola Scriptura

Greg Koukl: Sola Scriptura

Greg Koukl: Sola Scriptura

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Taken from our blog, Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason answers the question, “Is Sola Scriptura self-refuting?”

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41 thoughts on “Greg Koukl: Sola Scriptura

  1. Gerry M

    The council of Jerusalem in Acts 15 clearly shows where ultimate authority comes from: The Church. What Church? The only Church around at that time was the Catholic Church (Protestantism came after ~1500 years after the founding of the Catholic Church by Jesus; Protestants are protesting against the Catholic Church). That's one piece of evidence.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  2. Martin Sandoval

    Can Sola Scriptura forgive sins or retain them? NO!!! Therefore Sola Scriptura is not enough! 

    Did Jesus Christ ever say? John 20: 21He said therefore to "SOLA SCRIPTURA" again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you SOLA SCRIPTURA?  NO!!! Therefore Sola Scriptura is not enough! 

    HOWEVER! Jesus Christ did say in John 20:21He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you.  (PROTESTANTS WHAT DID THE FATHER SEND JESUS TO DO??? FORGIVE SINS OR RETAIN THEM.  WHAT DOES JESUS CHRIST SEND HIS APOSTLES TO DO???? FORGIVE SINS OR RETAIN THEM)

    Did Jesus Christ, ever breathed on the Scripture and say to Sola Scriptura receive ye the Holy Ghost. 23Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained???  NO!!! Therefore Sola Scriptura is not enough.

    HOWEVER! Jesus Christ did say to the Leaders of His Church founded on Rock, the Apostles and eventually  to their successors in (John 20: 22,23) below:

    John 20: 22When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. 23Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

    Sola Scriptura is a false doctrine, a lie from satan himself, to have protestants believe that scripture is all you need, when in fact Sola Scriptura can not even forgive or retain sins, which is what actually GETS ONE INTO HEAVEN, if one has their sins forgiven and not retained.

    No where in the bible does Jesus Christ send Scripture to do anything, only His HIERARCHY / Apostles the Leaders of His Church founded on ROCK!  Amen

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  3. andrew sapia

    you will know a tree by its fruit. Just look at the state of Christendom in Europe. It used to be a cohesive whole where the city of God as Augustine rightly saw it. Since the reformation by application of Sola you go from a single Christian society to multiple interpretations and the bloody fights that went with it to a secular society that has abandoned its foundation, killed or never conceived its future progeny and has foolishly imported a foreign work force of the muhammaden  persuasion and unless things dramatically change Europe will be a Muslim majority in 30 years. It is no coincidence that it was the Catholic church that saved Europe from Islam more than once. I think all of this can be directly linked back to Sola Scriptura. 

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  4. Skeptical Christian

    Looks like some have already rightly addressed the issue of having no knowledge of the extent and contents of the canon apart from Tradition. But SS falls on other swords.
    Sola always reduces to Solo, because even if we were to agree on a canon, or part of a canon, the individual will not submit to any authority/church unless he first agrees by his own interpretation of scripture. He alone has interpretive authority. He is his source of "truth" and not the naked text of scripture.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  5. sunshinegirl1967

    And they claim Peter as their first pope? If so, it should be obvious by reading Acts 5 that there has been a radical about face in the church's zero-tolerance policy regarding sin. Annanais and Sapphira lied about the money THEY WERE GIVING THE CHURCH. They held back a portion but lied and said they gave it all, maybe in order to receive praise from others? THIS was not tolerated. Peter pronounced judgement and they both died that day, causing godly fear.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  6. sunshinegirl1967

    Where do Catholics get their "authority"? If you ask one of them, they may quote Matthew 16:18. That automatically begs the question: if scripture is your source of authority, why do you thereafter depart from it? And their claim that they are the one true church sounds absurd. Any group can say that and many do. The catholic church has strayed away from the biblical Christ and into the error of their own tradition.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  7. Garrett Oates

    No matter how many ways you try to define Sola Scriptura it remains non scriptural. It does not exist in scripture.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  8. tnyrb444b

    @greglee20 Protestants should be careful about your suggestion.
    They may not like the truthful answer 🙂

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  9. urbanh196398105

    Also:

    I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (Matt 16:19)

    Those are the words of Our Lord Himself, brothers. Much as you may not want to admit it, the Catholic Church was established by Jesus Christ Himself. It was His idea to make one man preeminent in leading His Church. We better stick with that cuz I don't think anybody can have a better idea than God.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  10. tnyrb444b

    So Greg which version of the Bible is the sole source of inerrant authority?
    And by what Authority?

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  11. FlashGordon288

    I agree that we can agree to disagree but our similarities mean nothing when one denomination completely changes the Gospel of Christ found in scripture with another Gospel, which the RCC has effectively done.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  12. FlashGordon288

    Fringe opinion? Or an opinion based on scripture?

    In I Corinthians 4:6, Paul warns about pride and states "that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written:"

    That is exactly what Catholics do. In their pride, they accept the unbiblical teachings of men (the Catholic church hierarchy) over and above scripture.

    Be humble before God. Accept what the Bible says.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  13. FlashGordon288

    By looking at the Catholic church today, and the many immoral actions that are being discovered perpetrated by RC priests, Bishops and Cardinals, I would say that the RC is almost completely devoid of the Holy Spirit. No thanks, 2000deg. I'll stick to the Gosple of Christ as found in scripture.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  14. FlashGordon288

    You are not addressing my point. Nothing says it was legally binding or that this was a tradition to be continued forever. That's where Catholics make their mistake. When Catholics, and others, make tradition and following it the most important point, then you are resorting to works and salvation through works. Jesus said, we are saved by faith and belief in Him. NO WORKS.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  15. FlashGordon288

    Nowhere in scripture is Peter the head. No such thing as "main church" and then the other churches. The church is one universal spiritual church also known as the "Kingdom of God", of which all true Christians are part and are equal, and over whom there is only one master; JESUS.

    I am a Christian, a member of the Kingdom of God, who by faith in the doctrine of the Gospel of Christ, have eternal life, as the scripture says.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  16. FlashGordon288

    I can say that your interpretation is wrong. In Matthew 16:18, Jesus does not say to Peter that his name is changed to "Peter" and that Peter was to become the head of the church. If Jesus had said that, He would have contradicted other scripture in which it states that Jesus is "the Rock". Your claim that Jesus did that is reading an interpretation into the verse that isn't there.

    We have an interpretive authority. He is the Holy Spirit. The HS tells me that Jesus is the Rock, not Peter.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  17. FlashGordon288

    Not me. I will follow Jesus and I will follow the scriptures. Following man-made traditions and organizations like the Catholic Church will lead you away from Jesus. You can obligate yourself, if you want, to your sex-crazed priests.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  18. FlashGordon288

    Peter is not the head of the church. The transfer of apostolic authority is a Catholic invention and not biblical. The Bible obligates nobody to follow anyone except Jesus. That's why Paul could rebuke Peter. That's why true Christians can rebuke Catholics who think that by following man-made traditions, they have salvation. The Catholic Church is the church that strayed away from scripture over time. No one is obliged to anything except Jesus.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  19. FlashGordon288

    Catholics should follow the advice of 1 Timothy 5:22 above, and you should use a good translation.

    "Do not lay hands on anyone hastily, nor share in other peoples sins; keep yourself pure."

    By making the tradition of the laying on of hands more important then what the laying on of hands actually symbolizes, you run the risk of being too hasty in the laying on of hands.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  20. FlashGordon288

    This was a one time event, which Catholics now use to substantiate their control over the masses. Nothing here says it was legally binding or that this was a tradition to be continued forever. That's where Catholics make their mistake.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  21. FlashGordon288

    Total baloney. Every reference in the Old and New Testament refers to God and Gods Salvation being the Rock. Leave it to the Catholics to take the credit away from God and give it to a mortal, sinful man. The Catholic position promoting Peter as that Rock instead of Jesus is totally blasphemous.Luke writes in Acts that it was James who was the leader of the church in Jerusalem (not Peter).

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  22. FlashGordon288

    You're misinterpreting scripture to help support your Catholic non-biblical doctrine of the office of Pope. Jesus was using the fact that Peters name means rock as an introduction to his next statement and subject, which was that Yahshua Himself is the Rock on which He would build His church. In this way, Jesus remains consistent with every other Old Testament passage that refers to God and Gods Salvation as the Rock.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  23. FlashGordon288

    Yes, by implication it does exclude tradition. It states that what makes a man of God complete is scripture. Tradition adds nothing to the man of God.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  24. urbanh196398105

    from 2:45 – the way you can know that sola scriptura is in fact logically self-refuting is that there has to be an authority that is equally inerrant – the authority by which we know what books are even IN the written Word of God: the magisterium of the Catholic Church. The WHOLE Bible is the inerrant Word of God. But Protestants are missing some pages. Kind of important not to remove pages accepted for more than a thousand years as inspired by the Holy Spirit, wouldn't you say?

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  25. FlashGordon288

    Already answered above. Instead of playing games, try reading what Paul says,

    2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work."

    What the scripture tells us, is all we need to be complete. No traditions.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  26. FlashGordon288

    2000deg, you're putting words in my mouth. The only thing transmitted that has authority is the doctrine that is found in the Bible. That doctrine, and the authority that comes from it, is found nowhere else today except in the Bible. So if your church is following a tradition, and claiming that it has authority, you are not following the concept of "Sola Scriptura". That's what Catholics do, and it is wrong, as can be seen from the many non-biblical traditions that they follow.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  27. FlashGordon288

    Oh yes, many times, Paul warns against allowing false doctrine to creep in to the church, which contradicted the doctrine which Paul had taught them. He calls them fables.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  28. FlashGordon288

    The doctrine that was taught by Paul and others, was in written form by 70 AD at the latest. ONLY these have authority; nothing else.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  29. FlashGordon288

    The Gospels were already in existence in Paul's time, as well as all the OT scriptures. Paul's letters came into existence as he wrote them and were circulated when he was still alive. The doctrine which is contained in all of these written materials, is the doctrine that was orally taught, and is the doctrine to which Paul refers that we must not stray from.

    When it was canonized into what we now call the NT, is irrelevant.

    The "church" was instituted at Christ's first advent.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  30. Blacklivesmatter

    Fair enough but my initial point is that there shouldn't be differences at all, no matter how minor.

    "Man does not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceeds from the Mouth of God."

    How can one have Life if they don't know what the word says, & for that matter what the Word is. Sola scriptura doesn't even address how & by what authority the closed canon of scripture was established & blatantly ignores the historical place Sacred tradition has played in both Judaism and Christianity.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  31. Blacklivesmatter

    @FaithPlusReason, Protestant denominations disagree amongst each other on the nature, purpose, and function of baptism, Holy Eucharist, ecclesiology, liturgy, matrimony, sin, salvation, and eschatology.

    These are just to name a few, they are not peripheral issues.

    As for Jesus being the Son of God- what does the Son of God mean?…Ingleisa de Christo, Jehovah Witnesses, and Mormons are just 3 Christian denoms that deny the trinity.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  32. Blacklivesmatter

    @FaithPlusReason , who decides whats minor?

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  33. Diolectic

    Reality is the only other authority along side the Scriptures!

    For example: Reality proves that God can not command impossibilities while some say that HE does using (mis-interpreted) Scriptures as proof, contradicting reality.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  34. FlashGordon288

    Sola Scriptura is exactly what Paul is talking about in 1 Thessalonians 2:15, when he warned his readers about accepting other doctrines, traditions, beliefs, etc, that do not conform to the doctrine of the Gospel of Christ, as found in the NT. They are to be rejected if they do not conform to the Bible. That eliminates many of the Catholic traditions and beliefs. It eliminates the JWs, the Mormons, as well as many others.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  35. DoctorAkke

    This arguments is wrong. The errors come with your definition of "unity" and your statement that the only interpretative authority is the individual. That is also wrong. So this argument is simply wrong.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  36. Blacklivesmatter

    @ShawnThunderWallace, it is also note worth to mention the fact that the concept of Sacred Tradition can also be found in Judaism (e.g. The Talmud)

    For early Christians, who were Jewish converts, to implement an "oral new testament" isn't anti-biblical, unhistorical, or socially unreasonable given the level of illiteracy found in the Roman Empire.

    And I again reiterate, sola scriptura doesn't address how one comes to the infallible knowledge that the NT canon we have today is God-breathed.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  37. Doctor Thunder

    The problem is not just that the bible doesn't teach Sola Scriptura. The problem is that the bible clearly states that there are other reliable sources to follow. For instance,… So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us. (1 Thessalonians 2:15). So there is an Oral Tradition that is to be reverenced also as the Word of God. This is why Orthodox Christians reverence both the Bible and Holy Tradition as the Word

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  38. nowaydudebook

    Yay…way to go, Greg! It's amazing how the spirit of anti-Christ surfaces when God speaks. Yes, it is difficult to talk to God when the heart is still a bit stony. Last I checked, in this corner, the undisputed, undefeated Creator of the Universe! He doesn't lose! He's a gazillion and zero! Jesus said, "Thy Word is Truth". I know this vid was on authority, but still. Thank you, Lord..thank you, Greg. Love and am blessed by your ministry. Maranatha!

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  39. Blacklivesmatter

    Semantics Mr. Koukl, please provide the chapter and verse that says that the only inerrant authority for the Christian is the written word.

    You believe the Holy Spirit worked through men to transmit God's wishes through the pen yet you deny that the Holy Spirit can and has remained in His Church guiding and protecting His Bishops from error.

    So much for the Church being the pillar and bulwark of the truth.

    Look. certain books in the Bible claim to be inspired, MOST DO NOT.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  40. Blacklivesmatter

    How do u know which books r inspired & which r not, keeping in mind that their r books currently excluded from the canon that claim inspiration.

    If the Bible is the only inerrant authority 4 the Christian then u must admit that their r books in the Bible that may not be inspired & books not in the Bible that actually r. (Deuterocanon perhaps?)

    Since men r fallible and u don't except the Holy Spirit uses men to guide & protect His Church then ur belief in a closed canon amounts to blind faith.

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply
  41. 2KOR5.17_2004

    Sola Scriptura
    Solus Christus
    Soli Deo Gloria
    Sola Fide

    =)

    March 29, 2022 at 7:57 am Reply

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