Is it moral to freeze embryos?

Is it moral to freeze embryos?

Is it moral to freeze embryos?

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Frank Turek, Mike S. Adams, J. Warner Wallace, and Jack Hibbs together answer a series of questions at the Fearless Generation Conference (Fearless Faith II)

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45 thoughts on “Is it moral to freeze embryos?

  1. Kershwin Kyle

    Or is there someone where I can wacth the full thing

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  2. Kershwin Kyle

    Can you make the conference a playlist

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  3. Adam Miller

    is there a full length version of this conference anywhere?

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  4. Brian Lanning

    These were really weak answers to a great question. Here's what I would say.

    Once an egg is fertilized, it's a human with a soul. Whether or not it's frozen is irrelevant. Also, I would say that the act of freezing an embryo is irresponsible. Would you freeze your new-born because you're not ready to be a parent yet? Would that endanger the life of the baby? I think it's just a bad idea.

    People who freeze embryos do so because they want to implant them in the future. Typically, multiple embryos are frozen at once… let's say six to twelve or more. Why so many? Because the procedure is expensive, and the act of implanting them is very unreliable. Doctors often implant four to six at a time because maybe only one or two actually "take". So now you may be placing several embryos in a dangerous situation where they're more likely to not implant than they would have otherwise, again, putting babies in danger. Fertilized eggs sometimes don't implant during the natural process. But this is up to God, not us.

    Sometimes when they introduce so many into the uterus hoping that one or two implant, all of them implant. Congratulations! You're going to have sextuplets. This now puts the mother and all six babies in danger that they might not have had otherwise. And it also increases the chances of the babies having life long problems.

    So many mothers opt to do what's euphemistically called "selective reduction". This is where they inspect the six implanted embryos, choose the best two, then kill the other four. So that's the same as getting four abortions at once. Remember, if you're saved, you're going to meet all four of them in heaven.

    What if you get your 2, 3, or 4 children and you still have six in deep freeze? Some people throw them out… again, abortion. Other people put them up for embryo adoption, which is a great choice if you're already in this situation. But it's probably better to not get into that situation to begin with.

    Is it's God's will that you have a baby? If you go through this crazy process, is it your will or God's will?

    If you can't get pregnant and want children, adopt an orphan. To give you an example, when we adopted one of our children from Russia 16 years ago, they told us there were 750,000 orphans in the orphanage system in Russia, and there were that many more living on the street. And that's just Russia. The numbers are probably higher now. There's a bottomless pit of need out there. After having both biological and adopted children, I can tell you from experience that either way the process of bringing them both home is amazing and wonderful. The adopted kids feel like your kids. You don't see them any other way.

    And lastly, don't apologize for your position on these issues. If they're Biblically sound, there's no need to apologize. What's right is right.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  5. _ Delevicate _

    Nowadays they are used to enhance the 'flavor' of food products like pepsi and etc. These are the end times.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  6. Lloyd Steadson

    This is an answer that could also be so deep,
    However, 2 things they didn't say;
    1. A married couple that want kids – this is a theological debate in itself but still married.
    2. Choosing what we want our child to look like with crisper, now when that does become more main stream, that is playing God for all the unmroral reasons.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  7. CrixusHeart

    Not that I disagree that life starts at conception but I wanted to read what the 4th gentleman on stage said in Scripture. But Psalms 138 has nothing to do with the subject. Can someone tell me which Scripture he meant to say?

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  8. Mike P

    As a Christian I too believe that life begins at conception. I wish he gave the exact verse in Psalm 138 that states this, cause I looked it up and couldn't find what verse it is but maybe its the translation

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  9. Abby From Wii Sports

    I was a product of being a frozen embryo among many other frozen embryos that were destroyed or didn’t make it because my parents couldn’t have children. I’ve never thought about it being immoral before. That was a really tough
    Question.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  10. I wood

    The eggs are not fertilise their unfertilized eggs frozen to the mother could end up having a child when she finds a suitable sperm

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  11. Sierra Clark

    Hey, Jesus Christ saves and He loves you😁✝️

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  12. Benjamin King

    If we agree that there is life in the womb, then biblically we probably have to agree that the pre-existence of souls is a thing.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  13. Rock and Sand Apologetics

    Will someone PLEASE tell PASTOR Jacke Hibbs that it's Psalm 139 NOT 138? I'm sitting here and only have a Bachelor's degree. No way am I as intelligent as the 4 men on stage. Surely someone up there could gently remind Jack he's barking up the wrong psalm.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  14. Adam Case

    I kinda thought about it like this
    Would you freeze another full grown human like this, for years for any reason?
    Maybe put someone on freeze like Mr. Freeze's wife, to try to save them if a cure is made later but that is about it.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  15. Mystwolfe

    If I were to answer apart from God I would see no problem in it. God did answer this issue and says life begins at conception, so the answer is any human that is helped into existence in this way MUST be allowed to reach full maturation or it is murder to kill them.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  16. Hidden Rambo

    Artificial insemination should not be allowed there is some places in life that has a natural filter like which sperm makes it to the egg this is the first test of life and we should not mess with it. It should also not be allowed with the Millions of abortions taking place it seems society is ok with killing more then life so this extra measures to create life should be suspended until the scales are tipped towards life not death then you may not even need Artificial insemination when you could adopt one of the millions of babies that were saved from abortion.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  17. Mystery Man

    What is 100 years from now humans can only procreate using this method. As long as you use all the embryos then it’s fine. Donate the ones you don’t want. I’m a Christian man born unto this technique.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  18. nilesh jadhav

    Why he just stuck at nazi always

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  19. Peter van der Veen

    Yes, it's un-natural, just like organ-transplantation.. 😏

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  20. stevie gilliam

    In my opinion it's better than being ripped apart

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  21. Josh Gxoyiya

    Science can be used for the glory of God or to cross the line

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  22. Ethereal Rhyme

    This discussion has made me realized that even trying to conceive unnaturally is going against God's plans. You are making things happen by your will and not His.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  23. anjelo michelangelo

    i have a question, does nephilimes had a soul? (i mean giants – children of fallen angels.)

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  24. Here's my opinion

    Wouldn't God still know who that embryo would've became.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  25. Anthony Aleo

    Would’ve love to hear Frank’s point of you on that. I was waiting for it and it never came. Nonetheless, Frank you rock!

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  26. [ CMV ] America

    The soul freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit; but most souls will be thawed out later.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  27. SPREADING THE LIGHT OF CHRIST JESUS!

    Real tough question, need God's wisdom to answer questions like this!

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  28. Shark Pond

    Low-key though that sounds cool as hell. Imagine if you were frozen when you were a egg them you were put in 2800…… but to me as long as the egg is not being hurt i don't see a problem

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  29. vorcazm

    It's not hard. Life begins at conception. Human beings possess innate rights including the right to life. IVF kills human beings. IVF violates human rights.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  30. Declan

    That’s an easy wuestion to answer:

    Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
    -God
    Jeremiah 1:5

    It’s clearly wrong and not in Gods will. God knows that life and we have no right to play God and infringe our experiments on What’s Gods

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  31. Dr. Dave

    Were? 1:50

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  32. The Observer

    People are not lab rats.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  33. HIMMBelljuvo

    I think they handled pretty well, tbh. And this is coming from a Non-Christian

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  34. PockASqueeno

    Why would you freeze an embryo anyway when you can just freeze egg and sperm cells separately?

    Also, Jack says that freezing embryos has β€œcrossed the line,” which is a valid but debatable point, but what I would ask is, where exactly is that line?

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  35. Christian Ferrari

    It’s psalm 139(not 138)

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  36. M. G.

    Never.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  37. James Brodski

    Wow, that's a tough question, but answered beautifully. Great video!

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  38. Bo Bench

    The answer is simple. If the process is not aligned to what God designed. It is wrong, it is a sin. To create life, two must fall in love, get married and get god's blessing and to make love. Same thing when God designed fruits to be planted naturally. Thats how it should be. If you eat Genetically Modified Food (Fruits), then you get Cancer, its a byproduct of our sin.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  39. Enkidu Five

    Let's concede that freezing an embryo is an unnatural state. That being the case, isn't organ transplantation or removal, heart bypass surgery, medically induced comas, chemotherapy, and any other medical procedure unnatural? Refinement of drugs that are used to keep certain individuals alive is unnatural as well.

    Personally, I have to receive an injection directly into the right eye once per month to keep my sight from deteriorating. I lost most vision in the left eye as it contracted wet macular degeneration prior to the advent of treatment. I was young when this happened, too. Age 45. I've been suffering from this ailment for 18 years thus far.

    Should I just go blind, Mr. Hibbs, or should I keep taking the drug that slows (but doesn't stop) my vision from further eroding?

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  40. East of Main

    If a viable embryo is considered a human life with rights, imagine this scenario. A building is on fire, you go inside to save people, in one corner of the first room you see a 5 year old. In the other corner is a container holding 1000 viable embryos. You can only save the 5 year old or the container, what do you do?

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  41. Nonapologetic believer

    Anything that is done where we are playing god is Wrong simple as that..Stick to Bible

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  42. Del Conagher

    Here is the point of view of my preacher who makes total sense to me. It is not natural. We don't get to choose to create sons & daughters. It is given by God. Going against nature like IVF & other methods is just another way of going against God. Fertilizing eggs & freezing it is the same thing. The couple wants to play God & wants to have kids later on in life & want to focus on their careers etc. It's like saying that you hold your life & you'll be alive tomorrow.
    We just had a famous media reporter in our country. She is over 50 years old. She didn't have children when she was younger or was married. But had a live in partner who she later separated with. She has a new politician boyfriend now. They went to America to give birth via surrogate. When the baby came out, they were twins. 1 boy & 1 girl. It was so convenient to her & so defying that she even chose to have 2 kids & 2 different sex which you can do now via gene manipulation etc. She just played God. She made her career 1st. Got a surrogate. Then chose to have everything in 1 shot which people only dream to have a boy & a girl.
    Also another point is, if you cannot conceive there are plenty of children to adopt. People adopt animals all the time. Yet when it comes to humankind a lot laugh & dismiss adoption. They dismiss it & say "oh he/she's really not your own". How do they know? Have they ever adopted? Have they ever felt loving an adopted child like their own? And the child loving you more than they love their biological parents?

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  43. fsdfmsbcxx

    "And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

    Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth (Revelation 11, 16-18 / KJV) (This prophecy is not fulfilled yet, but it will)

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  44. WaitingandWatching

    Thanks for the info guys. Learning a lot.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply
  45. MrJamesdryable

    Only the religious care.

    June 22, 2021 at 1:54 pm Reply

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