Nihilism and Mass Shootings

Nihilism and Mass Shootings

Nihilism and Mass Shootings

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37 thoughts on “Nihilism and Mass Shootings

  1. Cross Examined

    Listen to the full podcast: https://crossexamined.org/nihilism-and-mass-shootings/

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  2. Redd Rabbit505

    Europe by and large has very little religion AND they also got very few mass shootings. So it doesn’t seem to be lack of religion as the problem.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  3. dario carvalho

    How do Americans can't see that God did not create guns. There are no uses for a gun but to kill. But instead of talking about not using guns they will go on about sin is the problem for these mass shootings. This should be why we as Christians from around the world should ask for the Holy spirit for discernment of what is Godly and what isn't and be reminded that western Christianity isn't what Christianity is . Shame on you Americans.

    (Although I don't often oppose any of Frank tureks views. Y'all really make Christians look as dumb.)

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  4. Jonathan Turek

    I have a had a weakness… I am a good guy and treat my neighbors well. I was raised in the church and performed all my sacraments like baptised communion 1st confession etc. ( I'm Catholic obviously ) I have been around some bad people but always maintained my friendly spirit and natural good will attitude I've been blessed with. I was a good example for them and later on down the road one on one I would get told thank you for holding it down like I do and did. I am a sinner but have a good heart and like we say in da isles I have the Aloha spirit.
    My weakness as I manned up from being a rowdy teen was FAITH. I tend to be a nonesense guy give me the facts and hold your opinions. I later became a student of the sciences , History and spent 5 hours a day surfing and let's just say I embraced the big wave surf culture.. For any of you who knows what that is.. I became a little skeptical studying science and being around an environment of free spirits and roughnecks. As my passion grew for science 2014 + and going full throttle with the info age were in. The lingering doubts in my mind I could not control ( I'm honest with myself and others I'm close too) and was holding me back as I could tell the differance between me and a full 100% believer … I can read things well and saw and felt a gap. I wanted to believe in the church the bible God Jesus + but those doubts had stonewalled any potential growth … So finally I decided that after experiencing huge successes in my research of the stars chemistry astrophysics geology ancient history then why can I not do the same with my religion. I needed to bridge the gap with what learned in sci with my religion. I felt like I could not believe in both. So I dug in and used my same research methods on Christianity. Well I found this guy talking about the big bang Hubble the laws of physics etc and a full blown Christian … I was intrigued ! I stopped everything and watched just about every video on yt with Dr Turek … I cannot thank Dr T enough man… I was so happy to learn and find out what I was hoping and wanted to be the truth. Thru alot of great work I could only come to 1 conclusion … That Jesus Christ is 100% for real. I knew it I felt it it was in my heart without a doubt. I honestly believe that Dr Turek saved me man. His work was exactly what I needed. I am soooo grateful.
    I give any of you the challenge.. Listen to the debates listen to the facts and search your feelings your heart. Do the research if you have any doubt. It's one of the best things that happened to me other than watching Zo E being Born which was the greatest event I ever witnessed and I seen way more than I should have .. Lol anyways Dr Turek Thank you brother !
    PS .. I have to say Cody is my favorite CE villain. I really like that guy and enjoyed his attempts to stump Dr T. I can tell he was after truth and I bet he's found it .. Lol god bless anyone who read this far. Just sharing my gratitude and experience. If it touches just 1 person it was worth it.
    Aloha
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    mahalos

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  5. David Newhart

    Fun Fact: When God and the Bible was still being taught at public school, gun violence was not rampant at all.

    When they took that away, gun violence strangely increased. The issue is not a gun issue, but a sin issue.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  6. bayes 'n' gays

    Europe is basically athiest now. They have no mass shootings. This argument is specious, dangerous and plain dumb.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  7. Rock Zalt

    The only place moral arguments that count are made is when men like Frank show up on campus. When it comes to public high schools and most universities, the Christian point of view is shunned so much, it's all but extinct in those classrooms.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  8. Sierra Clark

    β€œIf you declare with your mouth β€œJesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  9. Mick Q

    Given the choice
    A mass of dead children
    Or
    Interfere with the free will of a child killer.

    God prefers dead children.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  10. Immanuel

    Please speak up against this gun cult. Yes, we need a change of hearts, we need hope, nihilism is a destructive belief without evidence. But we also need laws. Demanding laws regulating abortions on the one hand, but rejecting stricter gun laws on the other hand MAKES NO SENSE. The people in Europe are as broken as in the U.S. and all oder the world, but we don't have mass shootings. Only the police and the army should have the right to use such dangerous weapons. Jesus' Sermon on the Mount is not compatable with this disgusting gun cult. Please speak up.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  11. Amadeus Asimov

    It is heartbreaking to see that this generation does not consider life nor the things of life to be sacred.
    The absence of sacredness has become a rot on modern society.
    It is absolutely a moral decay.
    As it was said "many will fall away, and their love will grow cold."

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  12. Matt Slater

    He sowed his eyes shut – because he is afraid to see

    He tries to tell me – what I put inside for me

    He has the answers – to ease my curiosity

    He dreamed a God up – and called it "Christianity"

    God is dead. And no one cares.

    If there is a hell – I'll see you there.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  13. Thomas Michael

    Part of the meaning of life for many atheists is arguing and debating with Christians over the gospel of salvation of Jesus Christ. This alone reveals what they're made of, debating and arguing over a topic they believe is fiction and shows the belligerence within them. OOOH, but they're the first to claim to be moral, good people. Always looking for an argument over what they believe is fiction has surely given them their meaning and purpose for life.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  14. Ted Zeiter

    So so true! I was telling my son we need to introduce these kids to a moral compass something no amount of laws can provide. It starts with the family.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  15. Pierre Lindgren

    "O daughter of Babylon, doomed to be destroyed, blessed shall he be who repays you with what you have done to us!Β Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!"
    –Psalms 137:8-9

    Guess the United States of America has served God as well as the daughter of Babylon. Just replace rocks with bullets. And seeing as these school shooting is unique and keep happening only to you among comparable countries, maybe Jesus is sending you Americans a message. Those who abandoned him have this and worse happening to them once your Lord decides to enact his petulant vengeance.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  16. Richard Fox

    No, what mass shootings show is that human beings can't be trusted with general gun ownership – and it's the Christian right who are the ones making sure guns stay in the hands of angry teenagers like the ones who perpetrated the last two mass shootings.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  17. Bones

    Frank turek why do you lie ?

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  18. Glory

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    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  19. Anas Mohammed

    Being a nihilist is just dumb because it makes you suicidal when you believe that nothing matters

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  20. Jim Urban

    For anyone arguing that having God present in society will prevent atrocities against humanity, I will point you to God’s own words in 1 Samuel. β€œ3 β€˜Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  21. Domingo Figueroa

    I think is a matter of identity. We must built our identity in Christ, that will lead us back to God. Sadly, part of our american identity is violence and firearms. The government can put in place bans and laws but the root of the problem is deeper. Mental health is a factor but not the root cause, sometimes that reason is used as a smoke bomb.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  22. Sweet Bee

    Sharing a song of hope during turbulent times we all are living in. Youtube: Jeremy Riddle– Know be still lyrics. By: music meets heaven

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  23. Michael Runk

    Btw when there rattling off all the things like the origin of the universe and the fine tune of the universe and DNA code there is nothing in there that proves the existence of God.

    Almost all the arguments Frank use is either A.) The God of the gap
    B.) Or complete fallacies that are not supported by scientific method. (Such as fine tune of the universe.)

    Let me make one thing clear we have theories of the origin of the universe. A the strongest paper on the theory of the universe that no one has yet been able to disprove is Stephen Hawkins. His theory doesn't require the existence of a creator.

    Frank knows enough about this stuff to hang himself. He doesn't know what he is talking about.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  24. Jake Bryant

    Awesome

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  25. Saint Michael

    AMEN!!!!

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  26. Sweet Bee

    Heavenly realm is our home eternity is our destiny on the other side. Death comes to us all. When, and how is a different story. We must soberly remember this current life is temporary. Do you know where you are going when you die? Jesus Christ is God's only Son. It is written He is the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to God the Father EXCEPT through Christ Jesus. ✝️

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  27. Danny C

    How many times are we going to hear 'Pray for them' ??!! Praying has been happening for thousand of years and yet he never steps in? Why is that?

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  28. NeedGod dot com

    The gospel I would say is the main message of the Bible, it is the work of Jesus Christ, the Son of God and what He did on the cross for all of humanity.

    Β  Β  Β  Β But, before talking about Jesus and the cross, we need to look at the problem of humanity, the problem every oneΒ of us is faced with. Despite the efforts of any person, we cannot earn our way to heaven. Romans 3:23 says: "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,". Anyone can examine themselves and know that even though, yes, sometimes we can do good, we also do evil at times. We commit moral crimes, and we rebel against God, which theΒ Bible calls sin. We lie, we steal, we blaspheme God, and we can lust and have hate for our brother in our hearts. These are just some of the sins more than likely every person on earth has committed. God is loving, holy and merciful among other attributes but He is also just, perfectly just. Like any crime, sin has to be punished. If God did not punish sin, then He would be unjust. He would be corrupt. Someone has to take the punishment. Romans 6:23 says: "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.". This is talking about spiritual death, not physical death; if you die in your sins then you go to hell. There is good evidence that humans have souls. Near-death experiences are one of those evidences. There is a part of you that lives on past your physical body.Β 

    Β  Β  Β  God sent His only Son to earth about 2000 years ago, His Son is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the promised Savior of the world. He fulfilled hundreds of prophecies by coming to and being in our world. Jesus was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life and was crucified on the cross as a payment for our sins. God poured out His wrath on Jesus in our place, meaning the justice of God is satisfied and sin is punished. While we were still at enmity with God, God still wants to save us, Romans 5:8 says: "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.". ThreeΒ days after Jesus was crucified, He rose again proving that His payment was enough and that He was who He said He was, the Son of God. There is real-world evidence for the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. This is not just a nice story.

    Β  Β  Β  Β  Scripture tells us to repent, to put our trust in Jesus, and to follow Him as Lord. Repentance means a change of mind which means to turn from a life following sin to a life following Christ. Salvation is a free gift and it cannot be earned. No one can be perfectly moral on their own, it is impossible. This is the only way to be in the presence of God in heaven. It is important to reiterate that we cannot save ourselves; it is the gift of God for one to be saved. Cry out to God to have mercy on you, earnestly ask God to save you. Ephesians 2:8-9 says: "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.". Salvation is a gift.Β 
    Β  Β  Β  There is no other way, Jesus Himself said that He is the way, the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father but through Him. Jesus is not just a way, a truth or a life. Romans 10:9 says: "That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;".

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  29. Artandmusic

    Please point out when this nation was with God? A return suggests that there is something to return to.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  30. Josh Swicegood

    It’s always a God issue. Wickedness increases when the love of God decreases. Bottom line

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  31. Azophi

    I guess if you are going to force a religion on people for their moral code then … there are definitely some better philosophies than Christianity at maintaining the well-being of society.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  32. Mick Q

    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
    Epicurus

    The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron.
    Maybe that’s why god can’t do anything about mass shootings ,
    Guns are made of metal

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  33. Generatorman59

    I Samual 15:3 –

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.

    So… let me get this straight. God can take the lives of children and infants and we worship and praise him. But when someone else takes the lives of children, we turn to the same god who takes the lives of children and infants.

    You theists don't see anything wrong with this?

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  34. The Right Tool Company

    These terribly events are the results of the moral decay in our Country. We lost Godβ€˜s presence and replaced it with so many things that you so adequately have described. It would be very interesting to know what would happen in our country if a few things changed. One we got rid of Pornography, two we got rid of violent video games. Three and most importantly if godly men and women are in our communities teaching the love of Jesus Christ. And children once again growing up in those environments.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  35. Mick Q

    A cursory glance though the history of humanity ,
    One thing is clear
    Theology is no barrier to barbarity.

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  36. Mick Q

    Either God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like this, or he doesn't care to, or he doesn't exist. God is either impotent, evil, or imaginary. Take your pick, and choose wisely.

    Sam Harris

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply
  37. Thomas Michael

    The family unit has successfully been dismantled, the love and compassion we should have towards each other has also been attacked and replaced with division. We've been indoctrinated and brainwashed into believing we're mere evolved ann a malls, is anyone surprised at the carnage that a godless society produces!

    August 5, 2022 at 3:04 pm Reply

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